Roth argues from false premises, that waterboarding terrorists was both torture and criminal. He then quotes the popular myth that Khalid Sheik Mohammed was waterboarded "183 times" in one month. Fox News investigated this claim some time ago and found that Mohammed was waterboarded only five times. Roth's repeat of this falsehood is irresponsible. Further, he is nothing more than an Obama propagandist. He writes:
President Obama’s policy toward the Bush administration’s use of torture has been one of splitting the difference — Obama ordered an end to further torture but largely avoided investigating, let alone prosecuting, what Bush administration officials had done. For the Obama administration, the calculation was political: Stopping ongoing criminality by U.S. officials was non-negotiable, but delving into the criminality of his predecessor was deemed too costly. Obama had other priorities — fixing a devastated economy, enacting health-care reform — so dredging up the crimes of the previous administration was seen as too distracting and too antagonistic an enterprise when Republican votes were needed.Notice Roth's dishonest argumentation: "Obama ordered an end to torture." But "torture" has not been proved, and Roth's statement sidesteps the need to substantiate this charge, hoping that the reader will simply take his word for it.
Roth then says "dredging up the crimes of the previous administration," but no crimes have been proved or established. Again, Roth hopes the reader will simply accept his unproven premises.
I rebutted Roth in the comments section of the article, but my comments were quickly removed. Read Roth's dishonest propaganda here.
I rebutted Roth in the comments section of the article, but my comments were quickly removed. Read Roth's dishonest propaganda here.
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ReplyDelete"Roth then says "dredging up the crimes of the previous administration," but no crimes have been proved or established."
So at what point does a person become above the international and national law? Does immunity to prosecution extend to high level military personnel as well as Secretary of Defense?
Does your argument that the President is above the law apply only to Republicans administrations?
Ema Nymton
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Great way to prove my point, Ema, arguing from false premises, assuming facts not in evidence, assigning to me positions I have not advocated - "that the president is above the law." What law? Name it.
ReplyDeleteThe president's first duty is to protect the American people, and if that means making a few terrorists physically uncomfortable until they rat on their fellow animals, then so be it.
Your problem, and that of the idiots who vote for the anti-American Democrat Party, is that you are always sympathetic to those who kill Americans, and weep great tears for evil. That's why I find you disgusting, as well as dishonest.
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ReplyDeleteVery cool dude going all lawyery on us..
"... arguing from false premises, assuming facts not in evidence, assigning to me positions I have not advocated ..."
Aren't you the cute lawyer? Water-boarding is torture. Torture is against international and national law.
What are _you_ going to say when a USA service man/woman is tortured by an enemy of USA?
"That's why I find you disgusting, as well as dishonest."
Ya, right.
Ema Nymton
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"Waterboarding is torture"? Who appointed you to determine questions of law?
ReplyDeleteIt isn't "being a laywer" that results in me skewering your half-baked arguments, but something called "critical thinking," a concept that is quite foreign to you.
Now go hug a terrorist, in keeping with your support of evil.
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ReplyDeleteWhat are _you_ going to say when a USA service man/woman is tortured by an enemy of USA?
Ema Nymton
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What are _you_ going to say when a USA service man/woman is tortured by an enemy of USA?
ReplyDeleteThey already are. Their bodies are mutilated by the Muslims and dragged through the streets, burned and hung from a bridge. You are very naive if you think that the Animals of Islam give one hoot in hell about standards of decency. I say, waterboard the hell out of the until they reveal all of their plots and plans. That is the most effective way to stop them from harming civilized people (including soldiers).
I also say prosecute people like Kenneth Roth for treason. He wants to play hardball, let's play hardball.
It is awfully easy to be hard-boiled about everything in the daytime,but at night it is another thing.
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