Monday, June 26, 2006

Fight Evil, Burn a Qur'an


Last night while reading through some of my favorite blogs, I learned that several Russian embassy employees, previously abducted in Baghdad, were beheaded by the insurgents. Butchered in cold blood while other Muslim bastards filmed it.

The reason the Muslim Spawn of Hell gave for the murders was that they were exacting revenge for the Russian crackdown on Muslim animals in Chechnya. Chechnya, you know, where these holy men of God murdered around 300 young school children.

I had to find some way to express my revulsion for this human scum and their evil and false religion. I found it. I created the graphic at left and am releasing it to the blogosphere. If you agree with the sentiments expressed, please do post it on your blogs and websites.

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

You fool.

The cause of the whole Muslim killing infidel is the flame of arrogance from the western world. The world needs to realise that children and innocent people are murdered all over the world and not just in the hands of Muslims. It is the infidel government who kill their own to gain sympathy from its own public to carry out operations on the peacful. We see examples such as 9/11, 7/7 these tacktics are borrowed from Hitler in which he did the same to gain public confidence to attack the Jews.

A storm is heading your way, from the clouds will rain of bullets, the wind will blow from the Muslim world taking you and your familes never to be found again, the storm has reached Europe and is heading your way.

God save the queen but you and your family first.

Burn the infidels, and keep the spoils for the pleasure.

Stogie said...

"It is the infidel government who kill their own to gain sympathy from its own public to carry out operations on the peacful. We see examples such as 9/11, 7/7 these tacktics are borrowed from Hitler in which he did the same to gain public confidence to attack the Jews."

You're not only the follower of a false religion, but a moral coward to boot. You want to kill innocents, but then blame it on the "infidel governments."

Come ahead and attack us, raghead! Let Islam's war with the West come, we welcome it! For when it starts we can finally, after 14 centuries, destroy Islam, Satan's religion on earth. Then all you cowardly Muslims can join your false prophet Mohammed in the depths of Hell!

Trickish Knave said...

Haha, I wave a dismissive hand at your threats, "anonymous", if that is your real name. Keep rationalizing your murderous cult and maybe some day you will believe it.

You will be burning in hell very soon, getting a daily pineapple enema, with Hitler and all the other miscreants who try to use the Kuran as justification for their sickness.

Dag said...

Stogie, you get some pretty good hate mail. Send some my way once in a while, eh. Even my ex-wife doesn't hate me. I just can't get lucky here.

Well, not exactly. I did get some good responses from the "Peace Forum" hippies last Saturday when we stood outside on the sidewalk and held placards and protested against them. What fun, Stogie, you should have been there. And were they stupid people? Oh, yes, they were stupid. I can't believe they could be so dense. Maybe they'd write hate mail if they could write at all.

What? Yes, I am going to post your graphic. I love it. If I get any hate mail, other than the stuff I write myself to keep my spirits up, I'll let you know.

Death to the peace hippies!

Burt Likko said...

While you may be quick to condemn me as one of the "godless liberals" whom Ann Coulter excorciates in her most recent book, I wholly agree that the Chechen killings are senseless gang warfare writ large, and the Russians are wearing the white hats. The "holy warriors" who so bravely kill Russian women and children as they sleep in their apartment buildings deserve the harsh justice hopefully to be soon meted out by the ungentle hands of the Russian military.

I will decline to repost your graphic, however. You are well within your rights to both create it and use it to criticize those murderers who so richly deserve it. Just because they invoke the name of their God or a particular ethnic or national identity in no way absolves them from moral blame for that which they do and say.

But I believe that the graphic paints with too broad a brush. I have Muslim friends and clients. They are quick to roundly condemn violence done in the name of their religion, and quick to announce that Osama and his brethren are traitors to Islam, murderers, and that they fully expect Allah to punish them most severely for their sins. A Christian is quick to dissociate himself from the violence and cruelty that has been done in generations past in the name of Jesus. That sort of behavior is no more a reflection of true Christianity than IED's in Iraq are a reflection of true Islam. I'm neither a Christian nor a Muslim, so the two religions seem to be about equal to me -- they both have some profoundly moral things to teach, and they both can be manipulated and misused by cynical politicians, often to very nefarious ends.

Radical, extremist Islam is indeed a threat and a cancer on the face of the earth. Like most cancers, it needs to be excised before it takes over and metastasizes. It is probably the most urgent problem we confront today. But remember -- you excise cancer with a scalpel, not a shotgun.

Burt Likko said...

Oh, and Mr. "Anonymous?" Shame on you. If you wish to accuse the West of murdering innocent children, so be it. Make your case, offer your proof. But don't respond in kind, even if you think Westerners are the true evildoers. You betray your own religion and the words of the Prophet when you do so.

The Holy Qu'ran demands religious tolerance of you. Sura 2:109: "Many of the people of the Scripture long to make you disbelievers.... Forgive and be indulgent (toward them) until Allah give command." Sura 18:29: "Whosoever will, let him believe, and whosever will, let him disbelieve." Sura 109:6: "Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion."

You are not to forcibly convert anyone to Islam. Sura 2:256: "There is no compulsion in religion." Rather, you are to be patient and allow them to find the true path on their own, if they will: Sura 43:88-89: "And he saith: O my Lord! Lo! these are a folk who believe not. Then bear with them (O Muhammad) and say: Peace. But they will come to know."

You are not to initiate war. Sura 2:190: "Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors." Instead, you are to treat everyone with kindness and justice, even if they are infidels: Sura 5:8: "O ye who believe! Be steadfast witnesses for Allah in equity, and let not hatred of any people seduce you that ye deal not justly. Deal justly, that is nearer to your duty. Observe your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is Informed of what ye do."

You are not to kill. Sura 5:32: "whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind." Instead, you are to behave in a manner that is morally superior to that of your enemies: Sura 29:96: "Repel evil with that which is better." Sura 41:34: "The good deed and the evil deed are not alike. Repel the evil deed with one which is better, then lo! he, between whom and thee there was enmity (will become) as though he was a bosom friend."

Stogie said...

Transplanted Lawyer, it's never too late to change from your errant ways and stop being a godless liberal. You have a great deal of intelligence, keep an open mind and perhaps you will find a better path.

As for Muslims, there are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam. The verses you quote from the Quran were the earlier verses when Mohammed was trying to save his sorry butt from his own people. Under the Islamic principle of abrogation, they were replaced in full by the later verses which command Muslims to kill all Infidels or subjugate them as Dhimmi slaves.

Stogie said...

Rastaman, I will add you to my blog roll today.

civilian-at-arms said...

You betray your own religion and the words of the Prophet when you do so.

You conveniently ignore all of those other words of the Prophet, not to mention over a millenia of Muslim doctrine and jurisprudence (with the historic accomplishments that go hand in hand) which reveal your understanding of the tenets of Islam to be cosmetic and shallow.

Many are fond of quoting "There is no compulsion in religion,” and are content to leave it at that. And on the surface, to your Western eyes and mind, it is what it says: you are not to forcibly convert another to Islam. But many an Islamic scholar thinks differently. Not forcing one to accept Islam does not preclude the Muslim from destroying the obstacles that you, the non-Muslim, are subject to and which prevent your from converting outright; or the reasons why you’re not a Muslim to begin with. This is where “terrorism” comes into play. Simply because the Muslim is prevented from converting you directly, this doesn’t mean they can’t knock down your buildings or discredit and undermine your institutions. Muslims can say that they have no desire to convert, while ramming planes into your buildings, and not think of themselves as hypocrites. The idea is that to remove these obstacles (by blowing crap up, if you like) will render the individual with no choice BUT to convert to Islam on their own accord.

Just something to think about.

Stogie said...

dag said...
"Stogie, you get some pretty good hate mail. Send some my way once in a while, eh. Even my ex-wife doesn't hate me. I just can't get lucky here."

Dag, you can't even get arrested in this town, hey? Your problem is that everybody likes you. You must work on this. Drink a few beers and go to a soccer game painted in your team's colors, then make rude remarks to an opposing fan's wife. It just might work! :)

Stogie said...

D.T., my understanding is that Muslims do indeed have the right to compel you to become a Muslim. The Medinan verse that Traveling Lawyer quotes was abrogated by later Meccan verses. There are so many contradictions in the Qur'an that it is quite confusing. But the Qur'an itself says that later verses abrogate earlier ones where there is a conflict.

Here are some interesting verses from the Qur'an and the Hadith that prove my point:

Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

Qur’an:8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”

Tabari IX:69 “Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing him is a small matter to us.”

Tabari VI:138 “Those present at the oath of Aqabah had sworn an allegiance to Muhammad. It was a pledge of war against all men. Allah had permitted fighting.”

It is not always easy to figure out which are the latest verses, because the Qur'an is not laid out in the order it was written. It was laid out with the largest Surahs (chapters) first, followed by the others in decreasing size. Since there is no chronology or context, the illiterate mess is even more difficult to comprehend. Throw in the fact that one-fifth of all Qur'anic scripture is indecipherable gibberish and you quickly become overwhelmed.

Stogie said...

Transplanted Lawyer, you're a good guy and I like your blog a lot.

Please consider reading some books on Islam. You might start with Serge Trifkovic's "Sword of the Prophet" to learn what Islam really believes. You can also visit the website "Prophet of Doom" where you can read the book of the same name for free. It is linked under my links at the right.

Burt Likko said...

I'll check it out in my copious free time, Stogie. If you read my blog carefully, you'll see that I'm not so much liberal as critical of those in power and of extremists of all stripes. It happens that right now, the people calling the shots and getting a little too extreme (at home) are the conservatives, so they get a lot of my fire. Insisting on civil liberties should not be a policy platform reserved to the left. When I worked at the Center for the Study of Popular Culture many years ago, I litigated freedom of speech cases against PC professors trying to enforce their leftist political agenda and punished students for the thought crime of differing in opinion. I remain very proud of doing that work as a young lawyer and see no inconsistency with my current set of beliefs about politics and policy with the set of beliefs that motivated me back then.

civilian-at-arms said...

The Medinan verse that Traveling Lawyer quotes was abrogated by later Meccan verses.

Of course, and then there's abrogration. They've got every angle covered.

Stogie said...

TL, you may not have much free time, but then again, your life and liberty may depend on an accurate assessment of what Islam is really all about. You seem to be under the mistaken impression that it's just another religion, with fanatics like all religions. But there aren't many Hindus, Buddhists, Christians, or Jews hijacking planes, destroying skyscrapers, beheading hostages, striving for world rule under a totalitarian system of government, and threatening to wipe Israel off the map.

And you're dead wrong about conservatives. It is liberals who are publishing our military secrets in time of war, giving aid and comfort to the enemy, and generally acting like the treasonous assholes that they are.

You got a lot to learn my friend.

Try checking out some of the blogs and websites linked at the right. Infidel Bloggers Alliance and Islamic Evil have the most comprehensive information; start with them.

Stogie said...

To TP once more:

Another thing, see the graphic at the right showing the number of Islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11? Go to the website it references and it will give you the details.

Tell me, have you heard of the five Haitian Muslims just arrested in Florida who were planning to blow up the Sears Tower? How about the Canadian Muslims who had 3,000 lbs of explosives and plans to destroy Canadian Parliament and behead the Prime Minister? All of these things occured in the last MONTH.

By now it should be slowly dawning on you that Muslims are not all that similar to the Methodists and the Mormons. Could it be...their religion? Just asking.

Althusius said...

As much as I can agree with Stogie on this point, I have to protest him calling Muslims "animals." The Muslims are wrong and in a dreadful sin that will lead them to Hell if they do not repent, but they are still made in the image of God, they are still humans. As much as we hate their acts and their "ideals," we need to be compassionate on them and reach out to them. I'm not saying that we need to walk up to Osama and say, "Hi, I'm a Christian, and you need to repent." You wouldn't last for 5 seconds. But we need to be loving towards Muslims all the same. They need Christ, just as the rest of us do.

A little moderation would be in order.

Good points and good post otherwise.

Stogie said...

Althusius, I respect your opinion. But we are talking about people who just beheaded four Russian young men while they were fully conscious. No, they are worse than animals. I have no compassion for Muslims of the violent variety (kill them all) and no respect whatsoever for their religion.

Althusius said...

Yes, that is beastly, the behavior is un-human. However the people themselves are still humans created in the image of God.

Yes, I don't know if you can have compassion on people like that, but I was mostly talking about the majority of the Muslim World, with people who are not actively terrorists. With terrorists, it takes the love of God to be able to be compassionate on them. Mind you, I didn't say sympathetic, I said compassionate.

I don't have any respect for Islam as a religion either.

Stogie said...

Althusius,

I know there are Muslims in the world who are decent people in spite of their religion. I even have Muslim friends.

So we are not in disagreement.

Anonymous said...

Even the bible says some madmen need killing.

Woe unto them . . . which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him! Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the Lord of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel." Isa. 5:22 24. "Cursed be he that doeth the work of the Lord deceitfully and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood." Jer. 48:10.