Tuesday, February 22, 2011

Lawrence Auster Wrong on Amanda Knox?

My friend Larry Auster and I do not agree on every point.  He has concluded that Amanda Knox was most probably guilty, and her innocence is only a lie being pushed by the liberal media in America.  I, on the other hand, believe she is innocent of the crime for which she was convicted of murder.

Read Auster's opinion here.

The case was recently made more ambiguous by a stupid "Lifetime" movie on the crime that was fiction, told with the premise that Knox was guilty.  I had a ton of hits yesterday from people who had viewed the silly flick and were looking for information on Knox.

Almost all of the lies, distortions, myths and falsehoods about Amanda Knox and the crime for which she was framed are covered at Injustice In Perugia.

Prosecutors who frame innocents simply to augment their reputations or to express their biases are nothing new.  It happens, more often than most Americans want to believe.

12 comments:

The Griper said...

"It happens, more often than most Americans want to believe"

and how often is that, stogie?

Anonymous said...

so true i was in that posstion in the u,s,a , an got deported to trinidad

Stogie said...

Griper, like I said, it happens more often than you think. The Innocence Project has already freed 266 innocent men who were wrongly convicted, using mostly the new DNA testing methods. I had a friend in San Jose, CA who was prosecuted for attempted murder, although he had nothing to do with the case and there was zero evidence linking him to it. He spent his life savings on a lawyer and was quickly acquitted, though he spent many months with the possibility of a false conviction hanging over his head. Some local D.A. wanted to make a name for himself at my friend's expense.

Harry Rag said...

The evidence against Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito is overwhelming. They gave completely different accounts of where they were, who they were with and what they were doing on the night of the murder. Neither Knox nor Sollecito have credible alibis despite three attempts each. All the other people who were questioned had one credible alibi that could be verified. Innocent people don't give multiple conflicting alibis and lie repeatedly to the police.

The DNA didn't miraculously deposit itself in the most incriminating of places.

An abundant amount of Raffaele Sollecito's DNA was found on Meredith's bra clasp. His DNA was identified by two separate DNA tests. Of the 17 loci tested in the sample, Sollecito’s profile matched 17 out of 17.

According to Sollecito's forensic expert, Professor Vinci, Knox's DNA was on Meredith's bra.

Amanda Knox's DNA was found on the handle of the double DNA knife and a number of independent forensic experts - Dr. Patrizia Stefanoni, Dr. Renato Biondo and Professor Francesca Torricelli - categorically stated that Meredith’s DNA was on the blade. Sollecito knew that Meredith’s DNA was on the blade which is why he twice lied about accidentally pricking her hand whilst cooking.

There were five instances of Knox's DNA mixed with Meredith's blood in three different locations in the cottage.

Knox tracked Meredith's blood into the bathroom, the hallway, her room and Filomena's room, where the break-in was staged. Knox's DNA and Meredith's blood was found mixed together in Filomena's room, in a bare bloody footprint in the hallway and in three places in the bathroom.

Rudy Guede's bloody footprints led straight out of Meredith's room and out of the house. This means that he didn't stage the break-in in Filomena's room or go into the blood-spattered bathroom after Meredith had been stabbed.

The bloody footprint on the blue bathmat in the bathroom matched the precise characteristics of Sollecito’s foot, but couldn’t possibly belong to Guede. Knox's and Sollecito's bare bloody footprints were revealed by luminol in the hallway.

It's not a coincidence that the three people - Knox, Sollecito and Guede - who kept telling the police a pack of lies are all implicated by the DNA and forensic evidence.

Amanda Knox voluntarily admitted that she was involved in Meredith's murder in her handwritten note to the police on 6 November 2007. After she was informed that Sollecito was no longer providing her with an alibi, she stated on at least four separate occasions that she was at the cottage when Meredith was killed. At the trial, Sollecito refused to corroborate Knox's alibi that she was at his apartment.

Knox accused an innocent man, Diya Lumumba, of murdering Meredith despite the fact she knew he was completely innocent. She didn't recant her false and malicious allegation against Lumumba the whole time he was in prison. She admitted that it was her fault that Lumumba was in prison in an intercepted conversation with her mother on 10 November 2007.

The English translation of the Massei report can be downloaded from here:

http://www.perugiamurderfile.org/viewtopic.php?p=53735

Stogie said...

Harry, you are wrong on all counts. Stop reading these "guilter" websites and read something worthwhile, like "Injustice in Perugia," which refutes all of your points above.

Like the bra clasp, which lay on the apartment floor for 47 days before the Italian investigators found it, and which had the DNA of four people on it, including that of Sollecito. Contaminated "evidence" proves nothing. Or the bloody footprint in Kercher's bathroom that the prosecution falsely claimed belonged to Sollecito, but was actually that of Rudy Guede. The site I referenced has a full discussion as well as photographs of the footprints.

Or the false confession of Knox implicating Patrick Lumumba, garnered after many hours of grueling interrogation -- it means nothing. I have seen documentaries on police interrogation techniques and it is very easy to obtain false confessions with aggressive techniques. Again, it proves nothing.

OF COURSE Knox and Sollecito's DNA were all over the bungalow, they lived there! Are you serious?

The notes that you describe that Knox wrote were very poorly translated into English by the Italian police, and they say something quite innocent and different than what you describe.

I could go on, but this should be sufficient proof that you are misinformed by guilter propaganda, prosecutor lies and misinformation and pure rumor masquerading as fact.

Stogie said...

Oh, one more thing, Harry -- the kitchen knife with Mercher's alleged DNA on it was not the knife that killed Kercher. The murder knife was clearly imprinted on Kercher's bedsheets in blood, and it didn't match the kitchen knife.

Further, the DNA (not blood) that was allegedly on the tip of the kitchen knife was too small to reliably measure, and could only be measured by a technician overriding the testing instrument which kept registering the sample as "too small." So Sollecito theorized as to how "Kercher's DNA" might have gotten on the tip -- so what? He must have believed the prosecutor's dubious "evidence" and did what anyone would do who is falsely accused, try to think up a reason of how it could have happened. It again proves absolutely nothing.

The Griper said...

stogie,
using just your own words i'll just say this.

you admit that the use of dna was new. this would indicate that dna was not a tool that could be used as evidence at the time of those convictions. you can't blame the office of the DA for that.

and remember it is juries that convict people not the office of the district attorney.

from a statistical point of view, 266 persons convicted would be considered as an anomoly not a pattern of behavior by DA's.

as for your friend, i sympathize with his situation but that is proof of the fact we have a very good justice system not proof of a broken system. we all face the risk that your friend went through.

granted, it would be nice if only guilty persons were tried and convicted but that is a statistical impossibility. and if only guilty persons were tried and convicted then our system of justice would have no purpose.

Stogie said...

Griper, yes some innocent people are convicted of crimes they did not commit. It is also true that some district attorneys are perfectly willing to convict the innocent in order to further their careers. The Duke Lacrosse players are ample proof of that -- the DA suppressed exonerating evidence in order to try and convict the players that he must have known were innocent. He was later disbarred for his ruthless behavior, but how many other DA's that do this are not?

Of course, it isn't just the DA's, but crooked cops too. I recently read about two cops who are now in prison for doctoring evidence that sent an innocent man to jail for years.

DA's who are elected are probably most prone to this, because they have to have a high rate of convictions in order to get re-elected. DA's should be appointed, not elected.

Why are you so sensitive to this issue?

Stogie said...

Griper, as for my friend, the DA in his case just made up wild stories with no basis in fact. He was quite content with arresting and jailing my friend and putting him through a trial based on zero evidence and zero motivation. His actions were neither honest nor honorable.

Nightowl2548 said...

It seems Auster originally had read the accurate American reports on the crime. But then came across the yellow journalism released by the UK tabloids in the weeks following the murder, claims that have been proven to be falsehoods and lies, and decided that these were the "real facts" of the case and the American stories were "liberal lies." However, in this case the American press got it right and the European tabloids were the ones suppressing a simple case of a career criminal committing a rape, burglary, and murder in preference of a ridiculous scenario with Amanda Knox as a modern day Sherman McCoy. The "Great White Defendant" from Bonfires of the Vanities where the press bored of mundane ghetto crime eagerly sought out a salacious story of a privileged member of society gone bad. The fact is in America, Amanda Knox would have never been considered anything other than a witness by University police experienced with the pattern of local men preying on University Coeds in property and sex crimes. Only hick town police hacks in Italy, fueled by Hollywood Cinematic images of American Femme Fatales like Sharon Stone's murderess in Basic Instinct could see an obviously innocent girl as the prime suspect. This case is as ridiculous as if the Tallahassee cops had tried to pin the Bundy Murders at Florida State on the Sorority girl who discovered the bodies. Worse, when the forensic evidence came back implicating Ted Bundy, they kept the girl in jail and claimed she was the mastermind who killed her roommates while Bundy got up to use the toilet after consensual sex. Then made a plea bargain with Bundy to let him out in 16 years if he'd testify to their quack theories. The Amanda Knox case is an IQ test, I suspect that the same type of person who believes aliens from outer space are giving people anal probes on flying saucers and the CIA flew radio controlled planes into the pentagon on 911 find the Amanda Knox satanic thrill kill story plausible. Those and soccer hooligans who just hate America.

Stogie said...

Nightowl, Auster has since looked more deeply into the case and says he now doubts that Knox and Sollecito are guilty.

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